Post by LuapYllier on Jan 3, 2014 14:40:12 GMT
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surlyoldmanmn: Even TOU wise, it's a non-starter. Using an someone elses tools does not absolve you of personal accountability for intentionally using those tools to exploit a system. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: From a TOU perspective, yes. From a common sense perspective, not even close. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: no, i mean you can download the so called "dns server" software and run it yourself. I would think it would be worse connecting to someone else's, lol. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: If you don't personally know the person running the server you're running your game traffic through... just asking for it. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: That's like giving thieves keys to your house in exchange for a "free" lobster dinner. Trade off not so good. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Not even a download. That's how DNS hack was working. It's just a matter of who is running the server at the new address. It's frankly worse if you're not running your own, IMO. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: ah i see. yeah, i wouldn't be stupid enough to even download something like that unless i was using a vm in a honeypot, lol 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Stateful inspection and packet mangling is par for the course to "mod" anything requiring communicating with TCP/IP 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: To which I say, no it isn't... unless it's to reroute traffic to a server dedicated to modding. Then yeah, it kind of is. And you just admitted to it. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Sorry, I mean kids claiming that changing DNS servers was not modding. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: what do you mean by Yeah, ya did.? was someone else typing and i missed it? 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Good thinking. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: As mentioned on the forums, it's worth mention YOU JUST SENT ALL YOUR DATA FROM YOUR XBOX, ON YOUR HOME NETWORK, PROBABLY TIED TO A CREDIT CARD, TO A HACKER. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Yeah, ya did. So what that does is reroute all your traffic through an automated service that basically mangles what you were supposed to get from rockstar and hacks the data sent back. No hacking there, no sir... 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: That's fairly standard. Part of why it's so humorous that kids are claiming they're not "modding" because they merely changed DNS servers. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: not sure how they run it but people were using a fake server program on their PC and changing the hex codes on the fly going in through xbox live. pretty long drawn out explanation but you can search it by jtag 18 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: They didn't have validation checks on config files? Alright, that's just lazy... 20 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: The biggest fix the hotpatch did was deny people from using god mode and altering the handling file, which allows people to do pretty much anything they want in the game 22 hours ago x
Guest: I also haven't seen as many outrageous mission rewards since the 30th. - gtaplayer1 (I didn't log in because the browser kept getting errors) yesterday at 3:27am x
skoader76: Definitely on the PS3 side - I haven't seen anywhere near as many large bounties or been gifted cash since. yesterday at 3:10am x
LuapYllier: Ive seen mention of a hotfix patch that was supposed to close the doors on the dns type modded lobbies on the 30th...anyone noticing any difference? The cash fix is said to still be coming. Jan 1, 2014 at 10:27pm x
surlyoldmanmn: Even TOU wise, it's a non-starter. Using an someone elses tools does not absolve you of personal accountability for intentionally using those tools to exploit a system. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: From a TOU perspective, yes. From a common sense perspective, not even close. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: no, i mean you can download the so called "dns server" software and run it yourself. I would think it would be worse connecting to someone else's, lol. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: If you don't personally know the person running the server you're running your game traffic through... just asking for it. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: That's like giving thieves keys to your house in exchange for a "free" lobster dinner. Trade off not so good. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Not even a download. That's how DNS hack was working. It's just a matter of who is running the server at the new address. It's frankly worse if you're not running your own, IMO. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: ah i see. yeah, i wouldn't be stupid enough to even download something like that unless i was using a vm in a honeypot, lol 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Stateful inspection and packet mangling is par for the course to "mod" anything requiring communicating with TCP/IP 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: To which I say, no it isn't... unless it's to reroute traffic to a server dedicated to modding. Then yeah, it kind of is. And you just admitted to it. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Sorry, I mean kids claiming that changing DNS servers was not modding. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: what do you mean by Yeah, ya did.? was someone else typing and i missed it? 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Good thinking. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: As mentioned on the forums, it's worth mention YOU JUST SENT ALL YOUR DATA FROM YOUR XBOX, ON YOUR HOME NETWORK, PROBABLY TIED TO A CREDIT CARD, TO A HACKER. 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: Yeah, ya did. So what that does is reroute all your traffic through an automated service that basically mangles what you were supposed to get from rockstar and hacks the data sent back. No hacking there, no sir... 17 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: That's fairly standard. Part of why it's so humorous that kids are claiming they're not "modding" because they merely changed DNS servers. 17 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: not sure how they run it but people were using a fake server program on their PC and changing the hex codes on the fly going in through xbox live. pretty long drawn out explanation but you can search it by jtag 18 hours ago x
surlyoldmanmn: They didn't have validation checks on config files? Alright, that's just lazy... 20 hours ago x
x GrndZero x: The biggest fix the hotpatch did was deny people from using god mode and altering the handling file, which allows people to do pretty much anything they want in the game 22 hours ago x
Guest: I also haven't seen as many outrageous mission rewards since the 30th. - gtaplayer1 (I didn't log in because the browser kept getting errors) yesterday at 3:27am x
skoader76: Definitely on the PS3 side - I haven't seen anywhere near as many large bounties or been gifted cash since. yesterday at 3:10am x
LuapYllier: Ive seen mention of a hotfix patch that was supposed to close the doors on the dns type modded lobbies on the 30th...anyone noticing any difference? The cash fix is said to still be coming. Jan 1, 2014 at 10:27pm x