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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 13:54:13 GMT
I'd loved to get involved but I'm a graphic designer for a living lol, is it like the olympics, no pros allowed?! LOL! Some parts of the forum make my eyes bleed and i've been told more than a few times by new members it's not very appealing for newbies. Could you use your expertise and think of ideas to shine it up a bit? I do like the header and the logo, it's just the rest lol Anyone else think the forum could do with a new shiny make over?
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Post by kidovey on Oct 26, 2014 14:58:22 GMT
I'd loved to get involved but I'm a graphic designer for a living lol, is it like the olympics, no pros allowed?! LOL! Some parts of the forum make my eyes bleed and i've been told more than a few times by new members it's not very appealing for newbies. Could you use your expertise and think of ideas to shine it up a bit? I do like the header and the logo, it's just the rest lol Anyone else think the forum could do with a new shiny make over? Sure man, see what the general opinion is and take it from there. Happy to help out. Edit: also really like crew logo so agree don't see any need to change anything there.
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 26, 2014 16:57:07 GMT
Contest open to all members, whether you're a Picasso or an amateur, you can collage And i agree the site needs a fresh makeover, shes been wearing the same dress for a whole year
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Post by Davexen on Oct 26, 2014 21:53:17 GMT
I'd like the forums to be a bit brighter. It's all pretty dark. I do love the header and the fence theme.
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Post by kidovey on Oct 27, 2014 14:58:33 GMT
I'd like the forums to be a bit brighter. It's all pretty dark. I do love the header and the fence theme. Out of interest what's the split like; who normally uses their mobile browser to view the forum and who uses a pc/mac/laptop etc?
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Post by Davexen on Oct 27, 2014 15:12:26 GMT
I use my laptop occasionally but 90% of the time I use my phone. I'll use my laptop to move threads etc and to organize events with pictures.
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 27, 2014 15:22:32 GMT
I use my laptop occasionally but 90% of the time I use my phone. I'll use my laptop to move threads etc and to organize events with pictures. I use tapatalk but i cant see the mobile site just tapatalk's theme, so for me its 50/50 though in terms of browsing, and 100/0 for editing, moderating and creating topics. Most new recruits would probably use a computer to signup because its easier, so i would focus on sprucing up the desktop site, i agree its pretty dark, maybe some more red? Or a burgundy? Cabarnet/wine red? Something classy yet modern but something that represents the crew also ^just ideas, not requests Ill move these responses to its own topic, in a few:)
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 19:25:57 GMT
There are options for different themes, currently just this one and the old black are available but I will have a play and see if I can create a more welcoming 3rd option. I believe we can have about 5 options so if I get into it, I'll make a couple and we can vote on the new default. Re-organising the boards into a more streamlined and centralised layout is something I thought about a while ago. I actually had a plan a few months ago. That's something else I can post up and seek opinions on. Fair bit of work tho so be patient.
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 21:10:39 GMT
I made one- you go into edit profile and settings. There you can set the theme to Red Rum Racing- Light. Quite frankly, it's disgusting and needs a ton of work. Editing a theme is an absolute nightmare and it's had me tearing my hair out but I will continue to look into it.
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 27, 2014 21:33:59 GMT
I made one- you go into edit profile and settings. There you can set the theme to Red Rum Racing- Light. Quite frankly, it's disgusting and needs a ton of work. Editing a theme is an absolute nightmare and it's had me tearing my hair out but I will continue to look into it. my eyes, it burns! joking aside it was great, loved the new red, maybe we can change the white to a light grey? on the original theme, could we replace the fence with a collage of our best snapmatics? anyway we commoners can access such a glorious tool?
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 21:39:56 GMT
I made one- you go into edit profile and settings. There you can set the theme to Red Rum Racing- Light. Quite frankly, it's disgusting and needs a ton of work. Editing a theme is an absolute nightmare and it's had me tearing my hair out but I will continue to look into it. my eyes, it burns! joking aside it was great, loved the new red, maybe we can change the white to a light grey? on the original theme, could we replace the fence with a collage of our best snapmatics? anyway we commoners can access such a glorious tool? No, not unless I make you admin, which may confuse matters. I'm not precious about it so if it comes to it, I'll do it temporarily. I'm still kinda mucking about with it now, the background and banner are especially nightmarish to change, pic wise, hence the plain wash of colour on the background (the fencing looked awful on this colour scheme. You wouldn't believe the fun n games I had trying to get the old banner up there without it just tiling itself all over, there's still some mess on it where I had to crop, paste etc. etc. Most annoying thing atm is that I can't seem to put the shoutbox at the top of the home page, I hate it at the bottom but I think it could be intrinsic to the template I used.
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 27, 2014 21:49:12 GMT
my eyes, it burns! joking aside it was great, loved the new red, maybe we can change the white to a light grey? on the original theme, could we replace the fence with a collage of our best snapmatics? anyway we commoners can access such a glorious tool? No, not unless I make you admin, which may confuse matters. I'm not precious about it so if it comes to it, I'll do it temporarily. I'm still kinda mucking about with it now, the background and banner are especially nightmarish to change, pic wise, hence the plain wash of colour on the background (the fencing looked awful on this colour scheme. You wouldn't believe the fun n games I had trying to get the old banner up there without it just tiling itself all over, there's still some mess on it where I had to crop, paste etc. etc. Most annoying thing atm is that I can't seem to put the shoutbox at the top of the home page, I hate it at the bottom but I think it could be intrinsic to the template I used. yea noticed the shoutbox was at the bottom, was a bit perplexed lol and we dont need more confusion, so we should leave things as it is. i could only imagine the cropping, what are the sizes of images we can upload for backgrounds?
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 21:54:17 GMT
Have now thumped my collage into the background. Tried all of them but tbh, they all seem a bit much on the detail front to me. If we paste all the collages into a single img, then they can all be on there, I can only put one img link in the dialogue box. But yeah, find any img link and I can paste it in.
Shoutbox at the bottom is bollocks so I might end up deleting this theme and finding a new template with it at the top. I can copy and edit the red theme but the results are very odd. Didn't seem to be much consistency when changing the colours of things, parts of the forum would just stubbornly remain unchanged.
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 22:00:12 GMT
Ok, I kinda like this but the background is too overpowering and the f**king shoutbox at the bottom....
Mmmm, it is a bit pink tho eh?
edit. Right, head and eyes now swimming, I'll get back to this later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 22:09:44 GMT
I use the black theme so i cant see any of your handy work lol it's much better than the red theme imo
Thats why i thought it would be a good idea for Kid to have a peeps. I know graphic design isn't web design but the web side is done, more or less lol
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 22:21:29 GMT
Have a look man, I think I like it now. Tbh, the colours and the background are easy to change, I'm leaving the tab open so make suggestions and I'll tone it accordingly. If I can find and apply a template that puts the shoutbox at the top of the page then we're laughing.
Although I preferred having a yellow name to a purple one, it just didn't show up at all.
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 27, 2014 22:36:37 GMT
I don't like the background.
Shoutbox being at the bottom wouldn't be such a problem if we didn't have about a million different boards on the homepage. Personally prefer there to be about 3. Crew, discussion and creator. Pretty much everything would go in discussion imo, what matters gets pinned, what doesn't dies an honourable death. I'm not keen on the plethora of sub-boards.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 23:20:48 GMT
Shoutbox being at the bottom wouldn't be such a problem if we didn't have about a million different boards on the homepage. I agree, i said the same thing in the shoutbox before i seen this. We both can't be wrong lol The home page would be better with just a few threads on display like what you said and a more random, chatty feel to it. Whats on the current home page should be behind signing in.
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 27, 2014 23:42:11 GMT
I don't like the background. Shoutbox being at the bottom wouldn't be such a problem if we didn't have about a million different boards on the homepage. Personally prefer there to be about 3. Crew, discussion and creator. Pretty much everything would go in discussion imo, what matters gets pinned, what doesn't dies an honourable death. I'm not keen on the plethora of sub-boards. Agreed. Front page, should just be categories, Crew, Discussion Room, and Creator, then within we have our pinned threads. Threads like my PS3 Event List will act like a mini navigation page, so when we do a merge, its easier to pinpoint threads among the others.
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 28, 2014 7:23:51 GMT
I'll lay out a plan for that before I do anything and we can see if it makes sense. We definitely need a nice understated background for this theme.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:05:54 GMT
I am still liking the black theme. I do see and agree that we could freshen up and better organize the forum however. I'll help where needed just let me know.
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Post by coach_wargo on Oct 28, 2014 14:16:55 GMT
I like the "light" design, but the shout box at the bottom is a game breaker for me. Edit for some further thoughts: Red is our default, so that's what new recruits see. It's pretty hideous, can we change it to... anything else? lol. Did you know the banner displays differently on Chrome than it does in IE? I never use IE, so I didn't realize the banner was rounded until I started looking into it. IE on the top, Chrome on the bottom. I don't mind all of the topic, but it the list of all of the sub boards that makes the home page cluttered. If the topics could be rolled up on the front page I think would look pretty good. Then you can just click on the link to topic and see all of the subs.
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Post by kidovey on Oct 28, 2014 14:43:18 GMT
I use the black theme so i cant see any of your handy work lol it's much better than the red theme imo Thats why i thought it would be a good idea for Kid to have a peeps. I know graphic design isn't web design but the web side is done, more or less lol What have I started lol! Don't want to step on anyone's toes, so, what if I make a collage for the other thread and if you guys like it then maybe it can be the new header? See what you think. If you are blown away then we can take it from there. I have an idea coming together for the collage and it's gonna be pretty damn time consuming so don't expect anything immediately! Oh and yer I totally design websites too, most people think graphic and web design are the same thing nowadays so expect it lol
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 28, 2014 17:54:59 GMT
I've wanted to reorganise the site for ages Kid, just lacked motivation.
There's obviously all sorts of magic to be worked with the template in the HTML codes but that's all jargon to me. Unfortunately, that's where I'd need to go in order to move the shoutbox to the top or hide the sub boards. However, I think I can get it nicely organised without that.
As Swifty n me both thought, shoutbox at the bottom would be alright if the boards weren't a mile long. My thinking on the home page would end up with the following, although there would be ongoing hiccups to sort out, no doubt.
Super Secret Admin only room- This is there already in the staff board. I don't think it needs to be there at all, the only part we use is the recently initiated thread and that can go elsewhere. Basically, I'd have this as thread storage and it'd only be visible to me n T, currently.
So only these boards would be on the home page for everyone else, if you can visualise it.
1. Crew- sub boards- Who We Are and How to Join. Divisions and Drivers.
2. Discussions- No sub boards.
3. Creations- sub boards- Creation Tips User Creations
The home page would be so much less cluttered, the shoutbox would possibly be visible without needing to scroll.
1. Crew -Who We Are and How To Join. All the current threads from the guest room can be pinned in the 1st of the 2 sub boards. We could return to the use of a single thread for requesting to join, driver threads become optional again. -Divisions and Drivers. Divisions as pinned threads.
2. Discussion. This would be where the hiccups occur as some things may need pinning in case they get lost and there may be a lot of things that people want stuck up there. I'd suggest that active events, the event list and Cup Ideas are pinned, everything else is buoyed by it's activity. I do lean toward pinning the Big Random thread as a kind of default discussion room. What I imagine is that instead of clicking recent posts, as many of us do, the option to just open this board and see what's changed is just as viable and more amenable to casual browsing for non regulars.
3. Creation Station- Self explanatory.
I would be happy to set the light theme as default if we can settle on a nice background for it. Obviously, if you prefer the black or red theme, you can set it in options. Still open to suggestions on it, I think the post buttons are too light, for example....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 18:00:42 GMT
I like your thinking but I really believe it would be best for us to have a Events sub board in the Crew section. We have so many and they do help define what we do so I think they deserve thier own board personally! Also please don't forget to send me my special VIP tag for admittance to the Super Secret Admin room!
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Post by SPEEDSTER0595 on Oct 28, 2014 18:49:57 GMT
The simplistic approach sounds great! Though i like T's idea of Events having a sub board, because we have so many and its the unique part of our crew. Are we going to have both consoles, ps3 and xbox in the same sub board or give each their own?
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 28, 2014 19:14:01 GMT
No reason we can't have an event board. My thinking was that the majority of our discussion recently has been event based so it would boss the discussion board anyway. If that was the case then I'd just preface event threads with the relevant console but if not then single Xbox and PS3 subs would do.
It will take a lot of moving and editing to make this happen but I'm up for it.
Thun, surely you see the commissioner sub board in the staff section?
One rethink. We should maybe keep the crew business board, so that'd make for 4 boards on the home page.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 20:13:53 GMT
Yes Cuz I do see the current Commissioner board. I was just having an attempt at humor (and apparently a poor one at that). I would prefer XBox and PS having separate boards for events and such. I don't want to wade through a different consoles events/news/etc to see what is relevant to me.
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Post by Cuz05 on Oct 28, 2014 20:33:45 GMT
Lol. It's the wading I want to eliminate T. I figured having all discussion on one page would allow everyone to see everything at a glance, basically a list of thread titles. From the home page it would be click and scroll to view the whole show, you're guaranteed something relevant from that 1st click. Should encourage more participation across the whole board as people are drawn in by intriguing threads rather than having to search interminable boards for something in particular. My main 2 motivations are to encourage general discussion and make idle browsing user friendly. If the majority of discussion ends up being in console specific event threads then it will naturally cut down on some cross-pollination and chit chat that may arise from that. Still, completely accept that it would be easy and accessible to stick a couple of sub boards in there. I only see events being something maybe worth keeping separate. Happy to go with that for now.
Remaining questions for me are: Do we want to go back to the single recruitment thread rather than the create your own thing we moved over to? Yes, yes, yes from me. Are people happy to have pic/vid threads moved into a general discussion board with all the other threads? We don't need them on their own board. It's far, far easier to just throw them in but I could create a sticky thread or 2 and try to sort them out. (Swiftys Crew Created Races could be pinned for everyone to use). Shall I make this light theme default? Personally, I think it needs some work (background- tempted to make it plain) but the black is way too oppressive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 20:43:26 GMT
I am cool with whatever you come up with...it'll be easier to pick at once we see it live! I'm certain that whatever you come up with will be great so just run with it and we can go from there. I still like the black the best but it needs to be safe for work. I sit at a desk all day and will log in and then check it during my free time. I'd like for it to not look too playful or gaming like so that my boss who sits right behind me thinks I'm goofing off too much. The red is too bright and draws too much attention to my screen every time he walks by. YIKES!!!
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