Discussion - Ban the use of curbs to gain speed?

My feeling is,
If the path is a logical line, use it.
If you're on a straight and there's a kerb to quickly get a kick off, use it.
If you're deliberately moving across the road to get on the pavement there's other crews who are a better fit to what you're looking for.

Totally agree with Swifty.
Only time i use them? If i get loose or midjudge a corner, i use the sidewalk to het settled and get back on track, blocking them are gonna create problems.

I agree with Swifty.

I use them when it allows for a wider or better line. Its been like this since racing in gta iv. Its street racing and I like trying to perceive the whole street and see the best line round a corner. Whether that be on the road or over a kerb. Beyond that I do think its ridiculous that people are driving down entire straights on the pavement/sidewalk rather than on the road. I don't and wont do this as it seems silly to me, and as Dave said, breaks the immersion.

On the 'Tour Of The City' GP track we were running last night, the only time I went pavement surfing was on the fast right hand bend leading to the straight past Rogers Scrap Yard. No poles on the pavement (on the left) and it enabled me to take the right hander flat out. Obviously, if you get out of shape, you can take to the pavement to avoid poles (I'm thinking the propped left hand hairpin... Avoid the pole on exit by going right onto pavement) but actively seeking them out is a no-no for me. I say this as someone who drove down the pavements on Stars In Your Eyes on IV, and would wallride on Bohan Dash (I think it was this track) as you could go flat out passed all the breaking 'n00bs'. But again, both of these method left no litter on the road for others to tumble over.

I think it should be fixed by R*. But I think that any sort of "ban" on sidewalk surfing is just gonna create a whole lot of controversy and disagreements in the crew where it's not needed. People will start accusing eachother of hitting sidewalks, and I don't really feel anyone is entitled to govern how other crew members are racing as long as they are racing clean. I do agree that it's silly to be sidewalk surfing, and incredibly unrealistic, but I don't want to see or hear arguments between people or anyone being kicked from the crew because they hit a kerb or two, or even three. While it's incredibly unrealistic it's also often way more risky then staying on the road. By all means, lets petition R* to have it changed, I'm completely behind that. But calling it a gentlemans agreement, and having a ban on it seems a bit silly to me. What would be next? A gentlemans agreement to not accidentally hit light poles and signs, and a gentlemans agreement to not pass in the first X turns, etc, etc...?

I mean, I completely agree that we should encourage racing on the road, but that doesn't warrant adding a rule or a ban agains't using sidewalks in my opinion.

Personally, I don't move too far off my line to hit a kerb but in some areas and specific cases I'll try to take advantage of them to get a safer overtake. I'll also use them when re-entering a race after a crash to help me get the speed back up to pace a little faster. I don't think it's too advantageous for most technical tracks though, if you have to move far off the racing line to get it you might be getting a speed boost, but on the other hand you're taking a longer line, and I often see people go out of their way to hit kerbs only to overtake them myself without having hit any, simply because I'm going in a straighter line instead... The only times I've had people do annoying overtakes on me like that is when they're used on a last straight to get across the finish line.

I thought he already did....  .  Maybe it was done by someone else, but i remember a video about this back in May...

Ok... WTF?!?

So i basically posted about this on R* support page. Telling them about this issue. It was short and to the point.. That driving over curbs and side walks gives huge speed boosts and can effect racing in the city. Nothing offensive at all.

Next thing i know they deleted the post... and banned me from posting again on their support page. Dauk?


Im taking this as R* loves curb hoping and side walk surfin'. lol...







EDIT.  R* support is just filled with morons.  They thought i was trying to spread information on how to cheat. glitch or mod.  "As R does not support that* as they told me in a email.     LOL!?!?!

That's the sort of stuff I love about gta racing, trying to find the slight edges to give yourself the advantage. My opinion is if people want to do it then let them, but if they crash into someone while darting from one side to the track to the other in complete disregard, then chances are they are from NODO anyway.

But I think I've only played gta once this week, I think my flame is burnt out on it. Every time I think I'll have a race, I'll load up netflix or iPlayer instead. Like luap, I think need a new game to play for a while.

Do you mean getting a kick out of the corner? or clipping kerb's on straights when there's no danger to anyone in the road? That's the same as actively hitting them ain't it? 

I'm cool with whatever just want to make sure i'm racing the same as everyone else

I didn't know that this happened. I've always felt that 4 wheels contacting the road is faster. Like with the kerb near scrapyard on GP round 2 track I would use as much road to corner as when I tried the wider entry from the footpath my car usually would kick out slightly and depending on throttle it could slide and lose speed. But the inside curb on 3 of the 4 corners before the railway line was a faster line for me compared with using the road. So idk. When I make a track if I can block a curb (& usually save a light post too) I will. Pork hole circuit an example. So I guess I'd I'm a roadie on most trax

LOL @ensyyy @bebbo weren't you guys in NODO once??

Theres really no difference in speed and traction between off road and high end, its just that curbs and bumps don't unsettle the car with offroad so ur ride is more stable and therefore fractions quicker.

My opinion on this is if it is in your line then I don't care.
If you are weaving all over trying to hit every curb and sidewalk then that is a no-no.
If you are endangering others (wrecks, pole slicing, etc.)  to try to hit it (even in your line) that is a no-no.

lol.. Ya i hate people driving down side walks constantly.. I place random and sometimes hidden props on side walks to mess players up on my tracks.  Even tho some people might not like it due to the fact i kind of hide it.  I see it as a way to effect them mentally.  Just having them crash a few times into hidden props on the curbs will no doubt stick in their minds when racing other user created tracks.   If i can make them second guess driving down side walks then my work is done...lol


Thing is tho, when players are driving down the side walk for a few blocks and then using a better angle they are getting a 2 for 1 deal.  They get the speed boosts from the curbs and side walk bumping and the better turning line.  Which they also get a boost off of when they exit the turn.

Or the other problem, which is players bobbing around the road trying to soak up as many curbs and side walks as possible. Which is what im starting to see now on the daily.  

Sadly, im been having alot more fun racing with randoms the last few days..  Sure they mostly try to wreck me every chance they get  while `catch up` constantly slows me down.  But at least im not falling asleep due to not being able to hit enough curbs to keep up with everyone OR wiping out trying to catch up.  

I mean its not always that bad....  But for the most part it is.