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Post by T0lly on Dec 30, 2013 13:39:56 GMT
This thread is about a garage filled with vehicles specifically for racing.
My favorite thing to do in GTAV is race (I know Captain Obvious) but I also like to cruise around, off-road, stunts, and pickup prostitutes. Currently we are allowed 2 characters and the potential for 20 cars to house in the garages. I have designed one 10 car garage as my racing stable and the other as my extracurricular vehicular endeavour. My plan when building my racing garage is to use vahicles that I feel are best for racing (being competitive) and not for aesthetics. I do not particulary care for the style and layout of some of my cars. I pick them for handling and speed balance.
Racing garage definition - collection of vehicles with the specific intent of competitive racing and low lap times. 10 vehicles slots in garage to match the 10 typical racing options.
Tollyfab's racing garage: Class - vehicle Sports - Elegy RH8 Super - Entity XF Muscle - Gauntlet Motorcycle - Akuma Off-Road - BF Bifta SUV - Radius Coupe - Exemplar Sedan - Shafter Sports Classic - Z-Type Compact - Issi
This is not a must have list. I am still refining my selections as it takes some time to try all the vehicles and decide which one works best for me. Post what you feel is best for racing.
My other garage has several motorbikes, a sultan for rally racing, Sandking for rock crawling, and a Comet because is my favorite sports car.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 13:54:02 GMT
Its a tough decision sometimes as certain cars are better for certain races. I agree with most on your list. I have changed mine in the last couple weeks. I am not currently following the 1 car of each class as I have some favorites and other classes just never get raced. Class - vehicle Sports - Elegy RH8/Coquette (one for cornering, one for speed) I also have a Carbonizzare Super - Entity XF Muscle - Gauntlet Motorcycle - Akuma (sold the bike as I have not really raced a motorcycle race in a long time, stock Akuma still does wonders for me.) Off-Road - BF Bifta SUV - Radius (I agree with the Radius although I do not have an SUV at this time) Coupe - Exemplar/Felon GT (I can't let the Felon GT go, looks to good in my eyes, lol) Sports Classic - Stinger GT (I feel the Monroe is the go to car for classics but I love the design of the Stinger GT too much) Compact - Blista (i used to rock an Issi but I got tired of the responsiveness of the turning)
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Post by Mo-seph on Dec 30, 2013 14:19:20 GMT
A) I like this thread
B) agree w grnd on the blista over the issi, but its personal pref
I also pref the munroeto the ztype, swappin my sentinel to ccharacter 2 and replacing w an exemplar for char1 soon (after goin from felon to sentinel already lol)..
Currently have an fq2 for suv, was gonna change to baller but what is it that stands out about the radius? Im intrigued now lol
Im also gettin rid of my bifta for character 1 and replacing w custom Sanchez.. Seems to have the edge on my bifta and I already hace a bifta for char2
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Post by nittydon on Dec 30, 2013 15:02:04 GMT
. Tollyfab's racing garage: Class - vehicle Sports - Elegy RH8 - Feltzer Super - Entity XF - Agree Muscle - Gauntlet - Agree Motorcycle - Akuma - BatiOff-Road - BF Bifta - Agree SUV - Radius - BallerCoupe - Exemplar - F620Sedan - Tailgater - Super DiamondSports Classic - Z-Type - Agree Compact - Issi - Agree Agree with most, put what I would change in Green
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 15:03:55 GMT
Currently have an fq2 for suv, was gonna change to baller but what is it that stands out about the radius? Im intrigued now lol As far as stats are concerned, the Radius is in like second place to the Baller. I do not like the turning radius of the Baller though, I find it drives like a pig. I like the Radius as it is probably the best all around SUV, plus it looks like it is lowered before even putting suspension mods on it, lol.
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Post by nittydon on Dec 30, 2013 15:11:56 GMT
I actually have the Granger, but from playing with my 2nd characters Baller I know it was the wrong choice, the Granger was my crew vehicle as it fits 8 players, plus you get to hang on the side and fire your heavy guns from this position. so funny in the opening weeks (before Tanks !) to roll around in FM with 8 DDZN raining the pain on the noobs lol, we try now and either a tank or an rpg ends the party lol
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Post by Mo-seph on Dec 30, 2013 15:32:21 GMT
hmm i may have to check this out. dons got a point on the M/bikes though, bati is pretty good and pretty much the only thing compatible to the akuma.. i just prefer the akuma looks more than the bati (plus id rather not be a bati-boy... not sure why, and obv no offense to dons choice of crotch rocket )
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Post by T0lly on Dec 30, 2013 15:32:54 GMT
I have a custom Sanchez in my 2nd garage and it is grreat. Good for off-road tracks and stunts. I am keeping the Bifta in my racing garage as it does better on asphalt sections and I am looking forward to some Bifta street races.
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Post by nittydon on Dec 30, 2013 15:48:05 GMT
The Bifta certainly beats the Sanchez in straights, Grass Route 2 I can get under 2 mins with Bifta (actually held the world record on that one !!) did have a sanchez at the beginning but lack of modifications and paint jobs put me off, The Bati wins it for me as it's more reliable on the wheelie can beat most Akuma's on my Bati if it's a track I know well (Bati-Boy lol !! )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 16:09:13 GMT
For Motorcycle, it is going to come down to how good you are on a bike, plain and simple. They only other time it will matter is if it is a really straight course. If it is a straight course, may as well just ride the Akuma, it will beat out any other bike, plain and simple, that is even riding a wheelie the whole time on a Bati. I used to win races with my old Double-T all the time since a lot of people just can't stay on a bike for long. If it was the long straight courses I would just get smoked at the beginning by the Akuma's. I used to have two bikes in my garage before I started changing things around. One Bati and one Akuma. Akuma was used for racing, Bati was used in FR and messing around for wheelies. I still hold the longest wheelie distance out of all the people I compare with. Somewhere in the range of 3,200 feet. Can be beat by anyone that knows where to ride one though, most don't.
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Post by Cuz05 on Dec 30, 2013 18:53:21 GMT
Agree almost completely with Tollys list... SUVs I don't know but a friend of mine says the sleeker Baller is better than the Boxy one. Dunno how true that is. Sedans. I have a Tailgater that I hardly ever need to get out. Did an impromptu against a Schafter the other day and the latter was definitely faster in the straights. Offroad. Sanchez v Bifta depends totally on the course imo. Obviously, the Bifta driver can just knock the cyclist off... I only really have a half racing garage. Win ratio is shot to hell since joining RRR so I'm happy to just pick cars I like that are vaguely competitive rather than the best in class. Several of my motors lack straight line speed compared to others in the class but make up for it in handling, acceleration, looks or just plain fun.
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Post by T0lly on Dec 30, 2013 18:57:36 GMT
I am unsure about the Tailgater as well. I orginally got it because was there was a lot of hype about it. But I have not done any sedan racing to compare it with others.
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Post by Cuz05 on Dec 30, 2013 19:14:27 GMT
Oh and the Issi. Ugly feckn thing. Blista is just as good and much better looking.
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Post by Cuz05 on Dec 30, 2013 19:18:23 GMT
Tailgater gets a lot of attention because there's a ton of mods for it. Main reason I went for it was because of SP and modding up Michaels really nicely. I think its competitive, the handling is good, would like to race sedans a bit more often tbh. I believe the Enus is easily the fastest but handles like an oil tanker.
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Post by T0lly on Dec 31, 2013 12:32:16 GMT
The Super Diamond used to be classed as Sports. I saw last night is a Sedan now. I need to test it out, may be my sedan racing choice.
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Post by Mo-seph on Dec 31, 2013 13:04:10 GMT
The Super Diamond used to be classed as Sports. I saw last night is a Sedan now. I need to test it out, may be my sedan racing choice. this is interesting as its a good looking car... will make playlists tomorrow interesting for sure... in still 50:50 on my sanchez/bifta choice for character 1... i love the bifta as its fun to drive and although t0lly is right its faster on the asphalt, the sanchez is sharper in the turns and more stable off road (albeit with the possibility of being thrown off) ... im thinking i might change my high end wheels on my bifta for some offroad ones and see if that helps me make my decision...
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Post by nittydon on Dec 31, 2013 13:08:41 GMT
The Super Diamond used to be classed as Sports. I saw last night is a Sedan now. I need to test it out, may be my sedan racing choice. It's always been a Sedan on my game ??
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Post by T0lly on Dec 31, 2013 13:33:02 GMT
The Super Diamond used to be classed as Sports. I saw last night is a Sedan now. I need to test it out, may be my sedan racing choice. It's always been a Sedan on my game ?? source
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Post by nittydon on Dec 31, 2013 14:59:15 GMT
Ahhh probably didn't notice back then, only had my super diamond since around update 1.0.4
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 20:19:34 GMT
I've done some light fully modded testing on Tailgater/Schafter. Schafter def. beat out the Tailgater for speed, 1.01.736 on Cutting Coroners compared to having trouble breaking into the 1.03s (partly due to poor driving, but with that much of a gap, I'm fairly convinced the Schafter's got the edge). The Fugitive sat between them with a 1.02.882, but it lacks suspension mods so it feels a bit more unstable than both others.
My racing garage picks:
Sports: Elegy, for most tracks. Carbonizzare, 9F or Surano for highway tracks. Super: Entity XF. I suppose an Adder for highway tracks would be prudent. Muscle: Ruiner, for speed, or Gauntlet, for stability. Coupe: Exemplar, simply the titan of its class. Sedan: Schafter, as mentioned. Motorcycles: Bati 801, on tracks that let you wheelie a lot. Akuma, for those that don't. Sports Classics: Z-Type. Monroe is more agile, but the Z-Type is a sheer speed monstrosity.
I don't race enough SUVs or Compacts (like, maybe once or twice in the last 200-300 races) to care for those; I prefer an extra sports or super, myself. For the Off-Road class I think the Sanchez is the quickest and that can't be used with mods on most designated off-road tracks. If someone picks off-road for a normal track the Bifta's going to win, I think, but that's so rare I don't feel like it's necessary to have one.
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Post by Cuz05 on Jan 2, 2014 20:48:15 GMT
Ah, sedans Cor. Just been speculating about exactly that comparison elsewhere. Looking very much like it's a Schafter/Fugitive deal.
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Post by LuapYllier on Jan 2, 2014 23:17:12 GMT
The ultimate garage is what works best for you. No two drivers are the same. I would never portend to tell anyone what would be the right choices for them. I have seen virtually all cars in all classes win races. It comes down to the drivers.
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Post by Mo-seph on Jan 3, 2014 0:33:52 GMT
The ultimate garage is what works best for you. No two drivers are the same. I would never portend to tell anyone what would be the right choices for them. I have seen virtually all cars in all classes win races. It comes down to the drivers. I do agree with this and imo in each class theres usually 2 forerunners, one that gives the better speed, but lacks either handling or acceleration, the other that accelerates and/or has traction but slightly less speed. I think thats responsible for alot of the divide between which cars are "best". theres usually a compromise for each so the choice comes down to personal preference and driving style... Kinda makes sense as if there was 1 car in each classn\ that outdid the rest everyone would use it, whereas now certain cars favour certain driving styles What this thread does show though is certain cars really arent conpetative, like the bolokan praire in compacts or a bagger in motorcycles. we all seem to agree on the same 2 models in most cases Im still torn in my offroad decision, curently the bifta remains... Do think im cuttin myself short in coupes if I keep my sentinel any longer, but I finally found one for my second character now so I Can replace it, im thinkin exemplar....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 1:37:06 GMT
Exemplar, heh. At least its presence in races is overwhelming, and it has both among the best speed/acceleration as well as traction/handling in its class.
But otherwise I agree. It's often a looser, faster car vs. a more grippy, slower car. Adder vs. Entity; Carbonizzare/9F vs. Elegy; or Dominator/Ruiner vs. Gauntlet; one might even say Schafter/Fugitive vs. Tailgater. I'm personally often very heavily in favor of cars that have good traction, so the Elegy is a crystal clear #1 for me in the sports class, my performance with it is a whole step above what I do with any other car, even the Feltzer. But a lot of people out there are good at handling the looser cars. No matter which gets the fastest lap time when driven perfectly on a solo run, an actual race is too different from that and it will come down to what one personally feels most comfortable with. To a certain extent of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 12:33:59 GMT
Good post coruscated.
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Post by Mo-seph on Jan 3, 2014 12:43:52 GMT
true true i always see some of the fiercest debates on GTAF about the "best....." car in each class... its all bollox, the game is designed so that different playstyles are accommodated, rendering no single car the "best" of the bunch, even when you look at it class specific... for anyone who argues all day that the entity or adder is the best, try getting it round TBC's Rum Crawelrs track... certainly aint the best choice for that... as Luap said it comes down to personal preference, some cars blatantly just wont keep up (eg fully modded voltic or vacca against entity/adder) but the "best in class" will always depend on your driving style and of course the track your on...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 12:50:37 GMT
true true i always see some of the fiercest debates on GTAF about the "best....." car in each class... its all bollox, the game is designed so that different playstyles are accommodated, rendering no single car the "best" of the bunch, even when you look at it class specific... for anyone who argues all day that the entity or adder is the best, try getting it round TBC's Rum Crawelrs track... certainly aint the best choice for that... as Luap said it comes down to personal preference, some cars blatantly just wont keep up (eg fully modded voltic or vacca against entity/adder) but the "best in class" will always depend on your driving style and of course the track your on... Some wont keep up in theory, try telling that to the number of people I have beaten on Grand Tour in my Vacca against all Adder's and Entity's. I no longer have my Vacca but I loved that car when I had the money for it. Racing against all RRR crew members would most likely turn out different though, lol. I think I still hold the fast track time of any other Vacca on that course although, it isn't really a thing that anyone would really care about, haha.
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Post by Cuz05 on Jan 4, 2014 15:40:10 GMT
Not totally thread specific but I didn't want to make a thread for it so.... I'm agonising and looking for 'what would you do?' Type responses. I'm sacrificing one class. I want another muscle car and can't decide whether I want to let my Akuma or Bifta go. Will run either class as stock, Akuma or Sanchez, but which one? The Bifta is good fun and a full race line up of them is a great laugh. I wouldn't miss it otherwise, rarely get it out in FM and I'm not a big off-road race fan. Akuma. I'm kind of rubbish on bikes so running stock in races won't effect me much, I might even benefit from the more sedate pace. I will miss having a bike in my garage tho.... I'm nearly convinced its the bike to go.... Not really at all about racing tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 18:24:28 GMT
Getting rid of a custom bike is probably the best way of going about it. Most people have issues racing bikes and if you don't crash at all, then you will be passing most. Getting in the top 3 spots is pretty simple. There will always be that one guy that is really good and most likely come in first though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 18:32:55 GMT
Remove the Sanchez... Most people tend to go for fastest,rather than practical when it comes to bikes.
What is fastest on road? Custom Akuma (which most people tend to have) so you'll need to keep that in order to pace well.
What is faster off road? Sanchez - most people don't race off road a lot, so they're gonna be rubbish so you should finish well with a stock sanchez.
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