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Post by Adam on Jun 2, 2014 9:40:20 GMT
So I'm in need of expanding my fleet so I have a wider range of cars for racing! So I ask you guys, to list your top cars for racing in each class, all opinions obviously, and I'll compile a list in this first post for future reference for new players etc! Eg. I need a sports classic and a muscle car, what would you recommend?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 10:25:09 GMT
Monroe and Gauntlet. If Rockstar brings back the z-type to its former shape it will be the fastest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 10:25:34 GMT
ruiner is good for tracks with lot of turns; dominator is faster on the straight (i have both); sport classic - monroe suv - huntley S sport - elegy super - zentorno ; adder (is faster on the straight and in some tracks, i.e. Dipping in) coupe - exemplar sedans - schafter
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Post by Cuz05 on Jun 2, 2014 12:11:04 GMT
Don't forget your compact! The Blista. And pick up a Dune Buggy while you're at it. Bifta is only faster when it doesn't spin, which is never. Sanchez is for noobs! A bike would be handy too. Bati if you wheelie, Akuma if you don't. Or a van. Some debate there, Bison is quickest, Youga is nicest. It's mysterious class tbh... On the sedans, if its a real long, open track with a lot of straights, the Super Diamond takes some catching. If its a tight course with a lot of turns, the Tailgater has an edge with its handling. Shafter beats both on the majority of tracks tho. Sports wise, Elegy is still king ofc but I prefer the handling on the Jester, which is not far behind. Muscles, yeah the Gauntlet but its so boring. Live a little and get something else. Dominator is fastest but is basically an ice skate, Ruiner is up there too and handles better. Vigero is my top tip for just about competing and more importantly, maximising your cool factor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 13:57:39 GMT
The cars I race are the same as bebbo's list Bikes (which I hate lol) Akuma is faster on twisty tracks, and Bati is faster on tracks with straights because it has the highest top speed when doing a wheelie. Compact, blista off road, sanchez I have both ruiner and dominator, akuma and bati, and also both adder and zentorno. I don't have a sports classic or van because those classes suck. I'd sell my bikes as well but they get raced a lot Your garage should be starting to look sexy now admp
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Post by coach_wargo on Jun 2, 2014 15:15:44 GMT
Gauntlet, Ruiner, Dominator are all so close that it’s pretty much equal. In a time trial or non contact race the Dominator is the fastest, if you can control it. The Gauntlet has the best handling, it’s almost like driving an underpowered Entity. Ruiner is a balance between the two. In a public race I would take the Guantlet because of the handling, it is easier to control when some random jerk slams into you. Against the people here you can win (or lose ) with any of them. Elegy is the best sports car hands down. The Massacro is close, but the Elegy is free. Bikes the Bati is supposedly the best, but I can win pretty consistently on my Akuma. I just bought the Bati last night so I can’t really comment on how it compares. I also don’t understand why so many people dislike bike races. You have to drive differently than you do in a car, basically throwing caution to the wind and letting it all hang out. Isn’t that the purest form of racing? You may want to check out Boughy1322’s fastest cars videos. www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx_tHjuVuROD1k2lTfzHB4q-BHGK7WgsjHe tested all of the cars on Cutting Corners and also provided commentary on each of them. He tested everything as stock, and then later went back and tested the top 2 or 3 in each category fully upgraded. It’s a pretty good resource. If you don’t want to sit through the videos you can just look at the spreadsheet I put together of all of his times. docs.google.com/file/d/0B5jSqi6cyv9cZGtCcGJNanlYRkE/edit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 18:36:34 GMT
Elegy is the best sports car hands down. The Massacro is close, but the Elegy is free. My relationship with the Massacro isn't going so well, we seem to argue and bicker every race. I know the best thing would be parting ways amicably in LSC with a tearful goodbye then at least we both get something out of it, because if we keep going on like this much longer it's going to end up an expensive divorce.. Parked in the middle of the street, RPG then immediatly replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 19:29:55 GMT
Elegy is the best sports car hands down. The Massacro is close, but the Elegy is free. My relationship with the Massacro isn't going so well, we seem to argue and bicker every race. I know the best thing would be parting ways amicably in LSC with a tearful goodbye then at least we both get something out of it, because if we keep going on like this much longer it's going to end up an expensive divorce.. Parked in the middle of the street, RPG then immediately replaced. ^^^ ^^^
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 6:55:53 GMT
This is just my personal list based on circuit style racing. Some of these cars will struggle on races such as Long Haul and Grand Tour for obvious reasons. If you're wanting the best cars for technical and challenging tracks then these are my suggestions, and also what I currently own in the game. Super - Zentorno It was hard for me to let go of the Entity after so long, but I personally feel that the Zentorno blows it out the water. It takes this class for me in terms of having the best balance between speed, handling and traction. In an ideal world it would have the same cornering characteristics as the Entity, but once you've got used to its handling then you'll be rewarded by the massive speed difference, especially in acceleration. This is definitely the car to choose for the ultimate lap but some of you may prefer the Entity's consistency, much like the Gauntlet in the Muscle cars class.Sport - ElegyIt's difficult to sum up this car without sounding like Broughy1322 (who's videos you should check out if you haven't already). I've tried and tried to find a car in this class that's better than the Elegy for circuit style racing, and I doubt that day will come unless Rockstar release another Sports monster or move it into the Supers class. Anyone who hasn't raced this car yet should be aware that it's only real weakness is under braking, which is nothing short of horrendous. This if anything shows just how strong this car is in every other aspect. The only other thing I can think of in terms of its shortfalls is around tight and twisty street style courses. I've done a few tests in this using a Jester as its competition, and found that although the Elegy always achieved a faster lap the Jester was the most consistent around this style of track. Something to consider, but I could be wrong.Coupe - ExemplarI don't think much needs to be said in this category. If you race every class and you don't own an Exemplar, go and get one. Muscle - Gauntlet
This point should be shortlisted for most blatantly obvious observation of the year, but the Muscle's class is purely down to driver preference. I've always preferred the consistent approach to racing; to be as fast as possible over many laps rather than being the best over one. If you agree with my ethos then the Gauntlet is for you. I do concede though that this choice could be more to do with my own shortcomings, and that the more talented races out there will be able to achieve racing consistency with the faster cars in this class. If you want to break that wall and go for something with the best raw speed in this class then it's a choice between the Dominator and the Ruiner. Personally I feel that the Dominator is the better of the two, as the gap between them in speed is easily greater than their handling gap. Then again this could just be down to my personal style, so you should ultimately go with your gut and at least try them all in stock before you spend all your money on the wrong one. Sports Classic - Monroe
This class is a straight tossup between the Monroe and the Z-Type, and again it comes down to whether you prefer a car that handles better (the Monroe) or has more speed (the Z-Type). At the time of writing this I'm going by the information I've heard online that the Z-Type had its performance upgrade removed by accident, in which case the Monroe takes this class without question. Should they give the Z-Type its performance back then it's a similar situation to that of the muscle cars. Sedans - SchafterI once again point you towards Broughy's videos for more detailed information on this class, as it's another close one which he describes better. There's no doubt that the Tailgator is the best handling car in this class when compared to the Schafter and the Fugitive, but I feel as though the extra speed you get from the Schafter is a handling compromise worth taking as the difference is not that great. I would personally suggest you try to own both the Schafter and the Tailgator so you have that balance for faster races and more technical races. Good luck to you though, as these cars are annoying to find.
SUV's - Huntley Again, I don't really need to bother explaining this one much. Just go out there and buy a Huntley, otherwise you'll be destroyed in this class.
Compacts - Blista
I've seen a lot of people racing with custom Issi's and I still can't understand why. The Blista is the much more balanced car between the two for me, to the point where I would even put this up there with the SUV's and Coupe's in terms of how one-sided this is. If you were take two drivers of similar skill and have them race each other over 10 laps in these cars, the Issi may well get the faster lap but I would be willing to put my house on the Blista being first over the line after 10 laps.
I'm not going to bother talking about Bikes and Off-Road because I personally hate these classes. I'd love to have your feedback on my list, whether you agree or disagree with my choices and my reasons
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 8:00:58 GMT
Utility - Vapid Sadler Vans - Bravado Youga/Bravado Bison SUVs - Vapid Radius/Benefactor Serrano/Enus Huntley S Compacts - Weeny Issi/Dinka Blista Sedans - Benefactor Schafter/Obey Tailgater/Albany Primo/Zirconium Stratum Coupes - Ocelot Jackal/Dewbauchee Exemplar Muscle - Declasse Sabre Turbo/Bravado Gauntlet Sports Classics - Pegassi Monroe/Grotto Stinger Motorcycles - Pegassi Bati/Dinka Akuma Sports - Dewbauchee Massacro/Dinka Jester/Annis Elegy RH8 Super - Overflod Entity XF/Pegassi Zentorno/Grotto Turismo R
Those are your best bets for good performance, it's of course possible to do well in other cars as well but it will be much more demanding. Personal preference has been highlighted with bold text, though it's not necessarily what I currently own. (Most of them are though)
The Sadler and Bison are in my opinion a must in every garage. Not because you do alot of Utility and Van races with customs on, but because WHEN you do those cars give you such an incredibly massive advantage you're almost guaranteed to beat any other car driving the course.
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Post by Davexen on Jun 5, 2014 12:50:51 GMT
Sedans - Benefactor Schafter/Obey Tailgater/Albany Primo/ Zirconium StratumWut. Are you serious? I don't think I've ever seen the Stratum in a serious Sedans race. Is it decent for racing?
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Post by Cuz05 on Jun 5, 2014 15:22:56 GMT
Sedans - Benefactor Schafter/Obey Tailgater/Albany Primo/ Zirconium StratumWut. Are you serious? I don't think I've ever seen the Stratum in a serious Sedans race. Is it decent for racing? I was gonna ask the same question, lol. If its actually competitive, well, I'm pretty sure I want one!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 8:59:04 GMT
Started using mine after I found the one with a sunroof, it strikes me as slightly slower on the acceleration then the Schafter, and slightly slower on the turn. However, it seems to be able to accelerate to a higher top speed. I can't say for sure how competitive it is yet as I haven't tried it enough yet, but it's definitely competitive when you've added all your mods. There are more competitive Sedans though, as the class itself is much more equal between the cars then most of the other car classes, I just couldn't be bothered to list ALL of them My verified Sedan track The Valedictorian show these cars on the first page of the leaderboard: 1. Intruder 2. Asterope 3. Super Diamond 4-8. Schafter 9. Tailgater 10. Fugitive It's currently at about 170.000 plays which gives us a good sample size, most of the best players have already set their lap times by now. While the Schafter is clearly overrepresented on the list, naturally so too considering it's the default vehicle and also mentioned in the description, it's still beaten by the Intruder, and two surprising candidates, the Asterope and the Super Diamond. The Fugitive mentioned on 10th place is also the Sedan that Broughy concluded with being the best overall car in the class. Personally, I've taken a liking to my Stratum though and have been doing some of my best laps with that, I would say it comes in pretty close to the Tailgater.
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Post by Cuz05 on Jun 6, 2014 9:18:52 GMT
That's real interesting Fachuro. The Super Diamond is straight line fastest by a decent enough margin so that doesn't surprise me. I don't know that track but I know it would take some inspired driving to break records on a very technical race in one. Fugitive again no surprise, I've always thought it held the middle ground between Schafter and Tailgater. The others tho... Makes me want to find room for one of them. Intruder is a very nice looking car.
Lewis. I know you wanted feedback but all I can do is approve, nothing I can add or disagree with. Although.. I do think the Gauntlet is better than the Dominator, for similar reasons to the ones given on Domi v Ruiner. I dont think the extra speed of the Domi matches the extra handling of the Gauntlet. You'll pick up less on straights in it than you will on corners in the other. Ultimately it comes down to the driver, what they're used to and what track they're on ofc.
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Post by nittydon on Jun 6, 2014 11:41:25 GMT
No Paradise in the Vans section ? what did I just blow $150K on buying and modding last night !! D'oh !!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 12:36:09 GMT
Started using mine after I found the one with a sunroof, it strikes me as slightly slower on the acceleration then the Schafter, and slightly slower on the turn. However, it seems to be able to accelerate to a higher top speed. I can't say for sure how competitive it is yet as I haven't tried it enough yet, but it's definitely competitive when you've added all your mods. There are more competitive Sedans though, as the class itself is much more equal between the cars then most of the other car classes, I just couldn't be bothered to list ALL of them My verified Sedan track The Valedictorian show these cars on the first page of the leaderboard: 1. Intruder 2. Asterope 3. Super Diamond 4-8. Schafter 9. Tailgater 10. Fugitive It's currently at about 170.000 plays which gives us a good sample size, most of the best players have already set their lap times by now. While the Schafter is clearly overrepresented on the list, naturally so too considering it's the default vehicle and also mentioned in the description, it's still beaten by the Intruder, and two surprising candidates, the Asterope and the Super Diamond. The Fugitive mentioned on 10th place is also the Sedan that Broughy concluded with being the best overall car in the class. Personally, I've taken a liking to my Stratum though and have been doing some of my best laps with that, I would say it comes in pretty close to the Tailgater. Great track you've created! But the two first people in the leaderboard (Super Diamond and Fugitive) are hacked. There's no way in hell those time are achievable. I have done ~50 laps on your track and was able to get a 57.04 with the Schafter and that puts me in fourth (second if we don't count hackers). There's one guy in a Fugitive that has a 56.78 which is possible to get but pretty damn hard. Either way, to get under 56 is impossible imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 18:18:59 GMT
I'm assuming the top times must be done by a professional crew using slipstreams to boost eachothers speed throughout, or something of the like. That should be able to boost the time alot from solo time trials.
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Post by Cuz05 on Jun 6, 2014 18:46:39 GMT
I'm assuming the top times must be done by a professional crew using slipstreams to boost eachothers speed throughout, or something of the like. That should be able to boost the time alot from solo time trials. Yeah that makes sense, especially since glitched times are normally wildly unrealistic. Having got well used to slipstream off, its surprised me with its power whenever its left on. I reckon some of our fast guys should have a go at that.... Another thought, our TTs specify not using GTA mode boosts. Or they did to start with, obviously its something we wouldn't stoop to anyway. Combining both perfectly would cut some crazy time off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 19:05:10 GMT
I'm assuming the top times must be done by a professional crew using slipstreams to boost eachothers speed throughout, or something of the like. That should be able to boost the time alot from solo time trials. Yeah that makes sense, especially since glitched times are normally wildly unrealistic. Having got well used to slipstream off, its surprised me with its power whenever its left on. I reckon some of our fast guys should have a go at that.... Another thought, our TTs specify not using GTA mode boosts. Or they did to start with, obviously its something we wouldn't stoop to anyway. Combining both perfectly would cut some crazy time off. GTA Mode has it's own seperate leaderboard, you can switch it in one of the drop down menus. There is one for Rally as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 1:54:43 GMT
Super-Zentoro Sports-Elegy Sports Classic-Monroe Muscle-Gauntlet Compact- Blista Sedan-Shafter Suv-Huntley Motorcycles-Akuma Coupes-Exemplar
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 11:42:30 GMT
I'm assuming the top times must be done by a professional crew using slipstreams to boost eachothers speed throughout, or something of the like. That should be able to boost the time alot from solo time trials. Nah, it's impossible to get under 56 even with slipstream. This track is way too tight to get much use of slipstream.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2014 21:21:30 GMT
That really depends on how much you practice it with the players you're slipstreaming off. Theoretically you can slipstream through turns and any tight spot if you know what you're doing, and then make use of all the areas with more space to move slightly faster, should be able to nudge in atleast a few seconds that way... Was trying this on Chickin Drifting with a friend once one motorcycles, and seemed to work pretty well. We were constantly up around the WR on our laptimes, and that was WITH crashes during the lap due to us not being nearly good enough to do it properly. I'm not saying for sure that's how they did it, but I wont rule out the possibility either.
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Post by Adam on Aug 3, 2014 12:27:57 GMT
Neglected this thread somewhat, I don't the the list will ever be 100% though as debates will always run high. Though this talk of the coupe's recently, we need a clear winner there. Exemplar WAS the fastest though I believe the Zion is now the quickest? Or is it the Oracle? I still prefer the look and sound of the Exemplar but I'm going to have to trade up to the Zion or Oracle in order to keep up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 12:32:47 GMT
It really depends on the track imo - I would say zion/felon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 12:57:17 GMT
I got rid of my exemplar for the felon. It seems better imo. Although all the talk lately about the Zion has me wondering about the my Felon. Now the Oracle is in the mix. I haven't herd of the Oracle being a contender but would not rule it out. Has anybody actually tested the Zion/Felon/Oracle for comparisons.
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Post by Davexen on Aug 3, 2014 13:52:54 GMT
I got rid of my exemplar for the felon. It seems better imo. Although all the talk lately about the Zion has me wondering about the my Felon. Now the Oracle is in the mix. I haven't herd of the Oracle being a contender but would not rule it out. Has anybody actually tested the Zion/Felon/Oracle for comparisons. Yesterday we had a crew vs crew challenge on the RRR track Mirror Park Momentum. It's a track with a few straights but mostly tricky turns. The crew we were racing all drove Zions and they were uncatchable. We drove Felons and I believe one of us drove an Exemplar. Afterwards I bought and modded a Zion as well, and the other RRR guys couldn't catch me on Mirror Park Momentum with it either, even though that is far from one of my best tracks. I don't think I've ever won that track with a Felon, but the others didn't come close to my Zion. We did some drag races too and the Felon does have slightly better top speed. The Felon especially is a LOT faster in accellerating from a standstill but if you use the turbo start at the beginning of the race that doesn't make all that much of a difference. The Zion has amazing traction and will probably be superior on most technical tracks. On a track with a lot of long straights you still want to use a Felon or Exemplar though. I know nothing about the Oracle so I can't comment on that. :]
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Post by Adam on Aug 3, 2014 14:28:56 GMT
Yeah I think I meant the Felon, not the Oracle in my previous post lol
I was behind you for almost 6 laps yesterday on MPM in an exemplar and every time I got close you booted off again. Straight line speed isn't really an issue for most tracks, the gains on a straight are very marginal anyway! I'm certainly thinking of getting a Zion and selling the exemplar!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 14:32:36 GMT
Thanks Davexen. Zion it is. Thanks for the reply.
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Post by Davexen on Aug 3, 2014 16:08:06 GMT
Guys remember that this is the REGULAR Zion. There is also a variation for sale, something like the Zion GT or Zion Cabrio or something. You want the regular one. They're both for sale on the San Andreas Super Autos website (or something like that lol).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 20:14:27 GMT
I have the Zion Cabio, you can still put a spoiler on it and im pretty sure it just as fast as the hard top. it wins alot of races.. Except against Ensyy and Baron, those two could beat me if i was in a super and they were om BMX's
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